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4th & 5th ES Master Set and Trailing Arm Polybush Guide

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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:35 pm

Merlin wrote:For UK and JDM 5th gens without ATTS, the 92-96 Master Set can be used however the front upper arm bushings are different. You have to buy the Type-SH front upper control arm bushes (part number - 81204).
Well that little nugget of information is wrong! :facepalm:

81204 are these

Energy Suspension's equivalent are these, which are what I order and just received after waiting for over 2 months!

When really what I should have ordered are these...

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/16.3119

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The 81204 part number taken from the OP refers to them as "Front Strut Arm Bushings" on that webpage, which is why I thought they sounded right, however they are certainly Front Strut (Radius) Rod Bushings!

Fortunately I still need them. They are different to on a 4th gen (I've since found out), but now I'm going to have to wait another small lifetime before receiving the Upper front arm bushes :roll:
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Post by Merlin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:46 pm

ok sorry for that. What you are saying that the 81204 is the equivalent of the 2295 in this pic?

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And you are after the equivalent of 2280 in this pic?

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Post by Merlin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:46 pm

I have updated the first post.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:55 pm

Nope, the 81204 (or better call it 16.7108 to keep it all Energy Suspension) are the 5th gen equivalent of 7096 & 7097 in this pic...

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Seen fitted here.

I didn't think there was a difference for this bush between a 4th gen and 5th gen. I thought the front cross member was the same... Unless this bush is the difference between a regular 5th and a Type-S :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Post by Merlin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:03 pm

Ahhh I get you.

You are correct, regular non-ATTS Ludes have the same radius rod bushings as the 4th gen. Only the SH and Type-S are different.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:07 pm

So these bushes I've bought and received are no good then? :facepalm:
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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:09 pm

@4thgenphil are you going to need them with your Type-S front end mods?

It's these bushes, but Energy Suspension Black...

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/in ... /17416.pdf
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Post by Merlin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:11 pm

Yeah they are the wrong thing :(

ES's description of the parts are crap, that is why I did the diagrams for the 4th gen. But obviously I got the wrong part number for the 5th gen.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:16 pm

That's ok. I already have the 4th gen ones, which is what I thought I needed to use for the radius rod ends. If Phil doesn't want them then I'm sure I'll be able to flog them on eBay (Selling point... They're in stock ;) :lol: )
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Post by 4thgenphil » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:20 pm

NafemanNathan wrote:@4thgenphil are you going to need them with your Type-S front end mods?

It's these bushes, but Energy Suspension Black...

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/in ... /17416.pdf
Ffs yes i did, i dont now though. If no one else wants or need eme though
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