4ws Alignment locking pins (now on page 11)

wllm · Post by **wllm** » Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:00 am

Drax wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:15 am
hi wllm, i need to get another batch made - leave it with me and as soon as i get some more i'll give you a shout.

Thanks!

Post by **Drax** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:59 pm

@DanishLuder
@wllm
i've ordered another 5x pins to be made, i'll let you know when i have hold of them

Anzezaf · Post by **Anzezaf** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:02 am

Just out of curiosity, has anyone experienced any trouble when aligning wheels without the locking pin?

I had an alignment made without it and it passed without any trouble at all.

Post by **Drax** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:45 am

Anzezaf wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:02 am
Just out of curiosity, has anyone experienced any trouble when aligning wheels without the locking pin?

I had an alignment made without it and it passed without any trouble at all.

i had my 4ws alignment done without the locking pin and then with it, and the guy from Demon Tweeks said he could align the wheels pretty well without it but with the pin it made it that little bit more accurate.

Anzezaf · Post by **Anzezaf** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:57 am

Huh, interesting...

I was present at my alignment and the technician could align it with 0.01 degree accuracy, as per the alignment machine.. considering the total spec for 5th gen rear toe-in is 0.1 (or is it 0.15) that's above and beyond whats needed

Post by **Vtecmec** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:46 pm

I took mine somewhere for alignment and gave them the pin to use, they screwed it up (twice) as the car would not steer straight.

Did it myself a few weeks later (bought my own equipment), didn't use the pin and it's spot on.

From memory the spec is 1 degree of toe in, plus or minus one degree tolerance.

Anzezaf · Post by **Anzezaf** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:28 pm

What equipment did you use?

Post by **Vtecmec** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:23 pm

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If I had a bit more room, I'd have bought a 4ws kit second hand off Ebay for about £400.

K30DPC · Post by **K30DPC** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:50 am

Basically this pin is used to lock rear stearing rack in dead center position. This should normally be archived by the centering spring inside 4ws mechanism anyway. So it helps to make sure that after so many years of usage your steering rack is centered. Obviously it isn't must have to set tracking right.

I would compare this to timing belt. You can buy a locking tool, but even if you don't have one but you know what you are doing you still can complete the job.

Personally I have one of them and I'm using it when checking wheel alignment. If needed I can make copies

Post by **Vtecmec** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:13 am

I'm not sure the pin centers the rack, more like holds it steady same as the spring tool used to fix the steering wheel on the front. Because of the springs and actuator on the rear, it's stiffer than the front and less likely to move when you are making adjustments, so less necessary.